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Old 02-28-2008, 10:04 AM
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Mark :
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THOSE ON THE ASCENSION PATH naturally look forward to the time when our Ascension process culminates in ACTUAL PERSONAL ASCENSION. But when will this happen? Channeled information usually does not point to a specific time period other than the implication that the time draws near.
What do you mean when you say : ‘ Those on the ascension path ?' Isn't all of humanity engaged in a collective process of spiritual evolution ? Aren't we all ultimately moving forward, even if our paths seem at times to be rather circuitous ? Furthermore, aren't the divisions ostensibly separating individual selves ultimately illusory anyway ? Aren't we all part of the same spiritual whole, whose alpha and omega is none other than the Creator ?

Also when you talk about an ' actual personal ascension' are you professing a belief in a tangible/ temporal/ fleshly rapture as opposed to a purely spiritual awakening ?

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...' the Ken Carey books have pointed to the Winter Solstice of 2012 as a possible time of a " Quantum Moment of Awakening"
I don't know anything about Ken Carey. For ought I know, his precepts of a massive spiritual awakening may be very different from a physical rapture BUT...For the past 150 years, or more, literally dozens of modern Doomsday cults ( in North America alone ) have pointed to one particular day, or month , or year, or what have you...as the appointed hour of a supposed rapture - a physical/ fleshly transportation of the elect to some sort of pre-arranged new heaven / earth . Even two millennia before this, at the time of the early Christians, and various Judaic sects circa Christ's day, doomsday cults were quite popular. This is a dogma which I don't personally subscribe to.

I consider dogma of a ‘ corporeal rapture ' potentially dangerous since it seems to absolve the elect of any responsibility vis a vis trying to alleviate the suffering of their fellow man, here and now ! To me, this dogma doesn't strive to emulate Christ ( aka to walk in a Christ-like path ). Jesus quite clearly, was very concerned with human suffering, and spent much of his earthly ministry trying to alleviate this.

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Again in my mind, many right wing evangelical types seem adverse ( for example ) to ecological green movements , which seek sane sustain-able development( which will surely help to alleviate future human suffering ) , because they think that the current earth is about to be consumed by fire anyway, and that all the non believers ( those who don't subscribe to their narrow interpretation of Jesus' message ) are similarly, about to be consigned to eternal hellfire after suffering violent corporeal deaths en masse ( the evangelical ' left behind series' provides an imaginative apocalyptic endtimes scenario in video form which is nothing short of sadistic )

Maybe its just me, But I find that there is something vaguely sinister and inherently un-Christlike in looking forward to an apocalyptic endtime wherein not just the wicked , but ostensibly even all non-believers , by the billions, are to be horribly punished/ must suffer... simply for not being a member of their chosen cult/sect.

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Didn't Jesus say something to the affect that: God's Kingdom is NOT some futuristic space-time event, that it was NEITHER here NOR there, But rather ...already spread out everywhere on the earth, though men see it not ?

Surely GOD'S KINGDOM is NOT a physical state. It's A STATE OF MIND.

Peace Out...

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